Happy to help 🙂 That is not a uncommon stack to use between the two. Talking from experience here, esepcially for B2B sales/marketing flows. Zapier is just a 'connector' in that it may help to automate small processes as a stop gap. But really does not avoid the inevitable. From a budget perspective, who would be making the call on the tech stack? I think it really all depends on how marketing heavy you are with your strategy. How well developed is your content marketing strategy? Have you developed all your sequences and workflows with on MQL in mind? Do you do any of the SQL emails or once that gets handed off to Sales (I assume a demo is an SQL) what happens then? Its those questions that I really are deep dive to help your team make the best decision. Its hard to get off of SF or Hubspot. But at this point, just from this chat, I dont thnk there really is any way to avoid the spend. Its more like acceptance and then building out and optimizing those flows from this point forward so everything is not in a state of reaction.